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01-07 03:04 PM
Following info may useful who are looking for SSN on H4
Below is part of a message I posted in another discussion, but this deserves it own discussion. If you are a legal resident of the US, such as an H4, even if you are a child, and you have an ITIN, you can get a Social Security Number, because that is the only way to get the Economic Stimulus Payment.
Be forewarned that the SSA will put up road blocks. You will likely be denied your first application. However, the law is clear and there is no cost to apply. You also have a right to appeal. A cover letter explaining why you have a RIGHT to a Social Security Number will help support your case. Your letter should refer to the laws and statutes cited below.
The only way to get the stimulus payment is to obtain a Social Security Number for "non-work" purposes. The SSA may issue an SSN to an alien under the following provision:
20 C.F.R. � 422.104(a)(3)
(i) You need a social security number to satisfy a Federal statute or regulation that requires you to have a social security number in order to receive a Federally-funded benefit to which you have otherwise established entitlement and you reside either in or outside the U.S.;
http://www.socialsecurity.gov/OP_Home/cfr20/422/422-0104.htm
The Social Security Administration is required by federal law to issue Social Security Numbers to legal aliens who require them to receive federally funded benefits under Section 205(c)(2)(B)(i)(II) of the Social Security Act, which states that the Social Security Administration is required to assign an SSN to "any individual who is an applicant for or recipient of a benefit funded in whole or in part with Federal funds."
Here are some documents from official Senate and House websites (senate.gov, house.gov), which refer to the stimulus payment as a benefit. Print these out and attach them to your application.
Lawmakers
Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House
"Residents of the U.S. territories will also receive the benefit."
Johnny Isakson, United States Senator from Georgia
The benefit would phase out for single people earning more than $75,000 a year and married couples earning more than $150,000.
Johnson (GA04) | Press Release | Rep. Johnson Votes to Stimulate Economy
Americans who earned at least $3,000 in 2007 will receive the benefit, including Social Security recipients and 250,000 disabled veterans. Higher income taxpayers are not eligible and the relief phases out above incomes of $75,000 for a single earner and $150,000 for married couples.
Senator Robert Menendez | Newsroom
"Today's event is a chance to spread the word so that everyone is aware of the steps they need to take to receive this benefit."
News | Senator Pete V. Domenici
This benefit would help an estimated 20 million seniors and 250,000 disabled veterans.
EconomicStimulus2008
The 2008 tax instructions will include a worksheet to help those who did not qualify for a payment or those who received a reduced amount determine if they can obtain a benefit when they file their 2008 tax returns next year.
Senate Finance Committee
020808 Econ Stim Staff Summary.pdf (application/pdf Object)
The amount of the credit is phased out at a rate of 5% of adjusted gross income beginning at $75,000 ($150,000 in the case of joint returns). Residents of the U.S. possessions will also receive the benefit�
The law also clearly states that qualified recipients of this benefit must have social security numbers to receive these funds. No other identification number is considered permissible. SEC. 6428 (h) (2) "Identification Number Requirement" states, "For purposes of paragraph (1), the term `valid identification number' means a social security number issued to an individual by the Social Security Administration. Such term shall not include a TIN issued by the Internal Revenue Service."
According to SSA document 20 CFR Part 422 [Reg. No. 22] RIN 0960-AF05 Evidence Requirements for Assignment of Social Security Numbers (SSNs); Assignment of SSNs for Nonwork Purposes, a "valid non-work purpose" results when the "law requires an alien who is legally in the U.S. to have an SSN in order to receive general public assistance benefits (i.e., a public benefit that is means-tested) to which the alien has established Entitlement."
The means-testing provision of H.R. 5140, the Economic Stimulus Act of 2008 is stated in SEC. 6428 (d) Limitation Based on Adjusted Gross Income.
The federal government has also defined H.R. 5140 as a form of financial relief to persons who fall within certain income categories. According to a Whitehouse publication explaining the means-testing provision of H.R. 5140, "This relief would be available to everyone with adjusted gross income less than $75,000 for singles and $150,000 for married couples filing jointly. It will be phased out for taxpayers above those income thresholds. Taxpayers may qualify by filing a tax return for 2007 and including a valid Social Security number on their tax return." [Fact Sheet: Bipartisan Growth Package Will Help Protect Our Nation's Economic Health, Office of the Press Secretary, February 13, 2008, whitehouse.gov].
Lawmakers included the identification requirements to HR.5140 under the belief that all legal residents of the United States will hold Social Security numbers. Therefore, it is incumbent upon the Commissioner of Social Security to "take affirmative measures to assure that social security account numbers will, to the maximum extent practicable, be assigned to all members of appropriate groups or categories of individuals by assigning such numbers" [Section 205(c)(2)(B)(i)] and that all qualified individuals receive "financial relief" under H.R. 5140 according to the stated will and intention of the United States Congress and Senate (as described in the links above).
Below is part of a message I posted in another discussion, but this deserves it own discussion. If you are a legal resident of the US, such as an H4, even if you are a child, and you have an ITIN, you can get a Social Security Number, because that is the only way to get the Economic Stimulus Payment.
Be forewarned that the SSA will put up road blocks. You will likely be denied your first application. However, the law is clear and there is no cost to apply. You also have a right to appeal. A cover letter explaining why you have a RIGHT to a Social Security Number will help support your case. Your letter should refer to the laws and statutes cited below.
The only way to get the stimulus payment is to obtain a Social Security Number for "non-work" purposes. The SSA may issue an SSN to an alien under the following provision:
20 C.F.R. � 422.104(a)(3)
(i) You need a social security number to satisfy a Federal statute or regulation that requires you to have a social security number in order to receive a Federally-funded benefit to which you have otherwise established entitlement and you reside either in or outside the U.S.;
http://www.socialsecurity.gov/OP_Home/cfr20/422/422-0104.htm
The Social Security Administration is required by federal law to issue Social Security Numbers to legal aliens who require them to receive federally funded benefits under Section 205(c)(2)(B)(i)(II) of the Social Security Act, which states that the Social Security Administration is required to assign an SSN to "any individual who is an applicant for or recipient of a benefit funded in whole or in part with Federal funds."
Here are some documents from official Senate and House websites (senate.gov, house.gov), which refer to the stimulus payment as a benefit. Print these out and attach them to your application.
Lawmakers
Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House
"Residents of the U.S. territories will also receive the benefit."
Johnny Isakson, United States Senator from Georgia
The benefit would phase out for single people earning more than $75,000 a year and married couples earning more than $150,000.
Johnson (GA04) | Press Release | Rep. Johnson Votes to Stimulate Economy
Americans who earned at least $3,000 in 2007 will receive the benefit, including Social Security recipients and 250,000 disabled veterans. Higher income taxpayers are not eligible and the relief phases out above incomes of $75,000 for a single earner and $150,000 for married couples.
Senator Robert Menendez | Newsroom
"Today's event is a chance to spread the word so that everyone is aware of the steps they need to take to receive this benefit."
News | Senator Pete V. Domenici
This benefit would help an estimated 20 million seniors and 250,000 disabled veterans.
EconomicStimulus2008
The 2008 tax instructions will include a worksheet to help those who did not qualify for a payment or those who received a reduced amount determine if they can obtain a benefit when they file their 2008 tax returns next year.
Senate Finance Committee
020808 Econ Stim Staff Summary.pdf (application/pdf Object)
The amount of the credit is phased out at a rate of 5% of adjusted gross income beginning at $75,000 ($150,000 in the case of joint returns). Residents of the U.S. possessions will also receive the benefit�
The law also clearly states that qualified recipients of this benefit must have social security numbers to receive these funds. No other identification number is considered permissible. SEC. 6428 (h) (2) "Identification Number Requirement" states, "For purposes of paragraph (1), the term `valid identification number' means a social security number issued to an individual by the Social Security Administration. Such term shall not include a TIN issued by the Internal Revenue Service."
According to SSA document 20 CFR Part 422 [Reg. No. 22] RIN 0960-AF05 Evidence Requirements for Assignment of Social Security Numbers (SSNs); Assignment of SSNs for Nonwork Purposes, a "valid non-work purpose" results when the "law requires an alien who is legally in the U.S. to have an SSN in order to receive general public assistance benefits (i.e., a public benefit that is means-tested) to which the alien has established Entitlement."
The means-testing provision of H.R. 5140, the Economic Stimulus Act of 2008 is stated in SEC. 6428 (d) Limitation Based on Adjusted Gross Income.
The federal government has also defined H.R. 5140 as a form of financial relief to persons who fall within certain income categories. According to a Whitehouse publication explaining the means-testing provision of H.R. 5140, "This relief would be available to everyone with adjusted gross income less than $75,000 for singles and $150,000 for married couples filing jointly. It will be phased out for taxpayers above those income thresholds. Taxpayers may qualify by filing a tax return for 2007 and including a valid Social Security number on their tax return." [Fact Sheet: Bipartisan Growth Package Will Help Protect Our Nation's Economic Health, Office of the Press Secretary, February 13, 2008, whitehouse.gov].
Lawmakers included the identification requirements to HR.5140 under the belief that all legal residents of the United States will hold Social Security numbers. Therefore, it is incumbent upon the Commissioner of Social Security to "take affirmative measures to assure that social security account numbers will, to the maximum extent practicable, be assigned to all members of appropriate groups or categories of individuals by assigning such numbers" [Section 205(c)(2)(B)(i)] and that all qualified individuals receive "financial relief" under H.R. 5140 according to the stated will and intention of the United States Congress and Senate (as described in the links above).
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Ennada
09-11 09:22 AM
It is so pathetic that there are so much people waiting in EB3-I category.
This Guy just applied in Dec 2004 and got GC. His question is whether i need to carry ?
it is only karma.
I feel for you buddy. You can't be hating the player....you got to hate the game. This is exactly how I felt when 2006 PDs were getting approved last year. You are totally right....GC depends on your Karma.
This Guy just applied in Dec 2004 and got GC. His question is whether i need to carry ?
it is only karma.
I feel for you buddy. You can't be hating the player....you got to hate the game. This is exactly how I felt when 2006 PDs were getting approved last year. You are totally right....GC depends on your Karma.
Lou_Sifffer
04-18 12:28 AM
Dude, you're wrong.
care to elaborate?
Which "dude" is wrong?
care to elaborate?
Which "dude" is wrong?
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gc_on_demand
07-20 10:43 AM
My college got his I140 approved just in 2 months with normal processing. He filed in EB2-I. Mine was also approved last year in 2 months in EB2-I. Does the location from where are you applying affect processing time?
Not necessarily , But it does depends on what is load of work at a given time at given location. TCS was ahead of NSC last year but they shifted workload from NSC to TCS so now TCS is little behind. But once TCS cleans up all files it can go ahead. Processing dates are nothing but indication for when to open a Service Request at local office. If your case is behind that date you can open SR.For straight forward cases approvals comes fast. For those who are stuck they should monitor Processing time and see if their app is lagging behind proc time. They should contact USCIS.
Not necessarily , But it does depends on what is load of work at a given time at given location. TCS was ahead of NSC last year but they shifted workload from NSC to TCS so now TCS is little behind. But once TCS cleans up all files it can go ahead. Processing dates are nothing but indication for when to open a Service Request at local office. If your case is behind that date you can open SR.For straight forward cases approvals comes fast. For those who are stuck they should monitor Processing time and see if their app is lagging behind proc time. They should contact USCIS.
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longwait4gc
02-05 10:51 PM
UPDATE: My company attorney suggested talking about this in April, and I am nervous about waiting till then in limbo - things are only going bad to worse, I might as well find a job at a place which will sponsor a PERM sooner rather than later.
I request you to PM me if you have any leads for such companies might still be a good bet for filing a PERM.
uhh..damn immigration process..
I was in similar situation last year. This what my attorney told me after layoffs. They have to wait 6 months after layoffs in the company before filing PERM again. The perm filing process in big companies take atleast 2-4 months. So if they are planning to file after 6 months then this is right time to start collecting documents. For this to happen it might need little push from your manager.
If your company is in a situation where they are planning to layoff people continously over the next year(I know one big company which is doing this) then it is better to talk to lawyers right now and decide the course of action because there is no point in waiting until april. If your manager strongly supports your case then some times lawyers can pull off tricks like there are no layoff with this particular skill set or in this division etc..
I dont know of any big company that is hiring. If your resume is hot(has specialized skills) then put it in dice or monster you will always find employer.
You can always switch to consulting and find consulting company which applies for GC right away.
I request you to PM me if you have any leads for such companies might still be a good bet for filing a PERM.
uhh..damn immigration process..
I was in similar situation last year. This what my attorney told me after layoffs. They have to wait 6 months after layoffs in the company before filing PERM again. The perm filing process in big companies take atleast 2-4 months. So if they are planning to file after 6 months then this is right time to start collecting documents. For this to happen it might need little push from your manager.
If your company is in a situation where they are planning to layoff people continously over the next year(I know one big company which is doing this) then it is better to talk to lawyers right now and decide the course of action because there is no point in waiting until april. If your manager strongly supports your case then some times lawyers can pull off tricks like there are no layoff with this particular skill set or in this division etc..
I dont know of any big company that is hiring. If your resume is hot(has specialized skills) then put it in dice or monster you will always find employer.
You can always switch to consulting and find consulting company which applies for GC right away.
paskal
01-23 02:33 PM
it does say clearly that the bill will include provisions for skilled workers....
we have never quite been the center of attention, maybe that will be for the best, we can only hope :-)
we have never quite been the center of attention, maybe that will be for the best, we can only hope :-)
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Naruto
10-05 05:21 PM
I can back that one up. We received audit August 13 for 2005. Had to prove we are married & kids live with us. When called and spoke to officer she said it was an "INS flag"! Honest to God that is what she said. She then asked if we had applied in the last couple of months for 485's??? She knew all about the USCIS system and said one way of telling is if you file jointly at the same address each year then why would IRS be asking for proof of marriage and kids living there etc. She was great and confirmed they had received all paperwork. Had to resend due to liquid being spilled on copies.... Even H&R Block said it was INS based.
Then we get 4 out of 5 EAD's approved, but spouse gets RFE and it is proof of name change please resubmit marriage certificate!
Cheers,
LRIndy
How recent is that ? did they ask you for to submit it this year or in year 2005 ? I'm just curiouse what is IRS has to do with immigration? when did you apply for your I-485?
is there a relationship between taxes and Immigration?
Then we get 4 out of 5 EAD's approved, but spouse gets RFE and it is proof of name change please resubmit marriage certificate!
Cheers,
LRIndy
How recent is that ? did they ask you for to submit it this year or in year 2005 ? I'm just curiouse what is IRS has to do with immigration? when did you apply for your I-485?
is there a relationship between taxes and Immigration?
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anandrajesh
05-24 12:32 PM
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nc14
04-30 03:34 PM
To the point and very well written.
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suriajay12
09-16 06:36 AM
I would consult an expert attorney and ASAP.
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saiimmi
10-14 08:37 AM
I wonder on what basis did they advance the dates by whatever margin they did. No doubt, any positive movement (in hours, days ) is good but the consolidated database is not in place as I understand and so this seems pretty much a watershed. The dates might move with out any GC being issued :)
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Hinglish
08-07 09:07 PM
It is absolutely hilarious that people are bickering in a Stop bickering thread !!!!!!
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Honda
08-19 08:26 PM
Due to the economic downturn there aren't many companies sponsoring GCs for employees. I doubt it would be more than 20 to 30k per year from now. This leaves 100-110k visas available every year for retrogressed countries like india and china
if there 300-400k pending GC applications in all categories then shouldn't all of us get our GC in next 3-4 years?
There is no way to clean every thing with in 3 to 4 years, Why because like EB3 china and India had country limit per year.
if there 300-400k pending GC applications in all categories then shouldn't all of us get our GC in next 3-4 years?
There is no way to clean every thing with in 3 to 4 years, Why because like EB3 china and India had country limit per year.
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sjhugoose
January 30th, 2004, 11:32 AM
If Paul's hunch that we'll see the 1Ds' successor by September is correct, then we might see cheaper 1D-II bodies prior to that.
As for the Kodak, it certainly has the resolution, but it doesn't seem as if it's generating much enthusiasm. The 1Ds (with less pixels) OTOH has. Removing the very expensive anti-aliasing filter was probably not Kodak's greatest moment.
I think the Kodak has alot more problems than just AA problems!!!
And any time a product drops by 50% in 1 year its normally not a good sign
Scott
As for the Kodak, it certainly has the resolution, but it doesn't seem as if it's generating much enthusiasm. The 1Ds (with less pixels) OTOH has. Removing the very expensive anti-aliasing filter was probably not Kodak's greatest moment.
I think the Kodak has alot more problems than just AA problems!!!
And any time a product drops by 50% in 1 year its normally not a good sign
Scott
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p_kumar
08-23 05:30 PM
would all AOS applicants receive FP notice or only those whose PD is current.
Your interpretation of the question is incorrect :p:p
I am sure about your answer though...:)
Labor Approval Date: 8/13/2007
I-140 Approved sept 2005 Attorney incorrectly applied EB3
Applied second I-140 EB2 May 2007 EB2
I-485 applied June 29th
I-485 receipt notice received Aug 15
EAD approved Aug 17
YOU APPLIED ON JUNE 29TH AND GOT EAD ON AUGUST 17?. WOW!:eek:
SO WHO FILED IN JULY, CAN WE EXPECT EAD IN SEPT?.
Your interpretation of the question is incorrect :p:p
I am sure about your answer though...:)
Labor Approval Date: 8/13/2007
I-140 Approved sept 2005 Attorney incorrectly applied EB3
Applied second I-140 EB2 May 2007 EB2
I-485 applied June 29th
I-485 receipt notice received Aug 15
EAD approved Aug 17
YOU APPLIED ON JUNE 29TH AND GOT EAD ON AUGUST 17?. WOW!:eek:
SO WHO FILED IN JULY, CAN WE EXPECT EAD IN SEPT?.
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logiclife
01-03 06:04 PM
If your 485 is filed and you have spent 180 days after that, then the AC21 portability allows you to change employers and change job locations but not the job description.
Even after 180 days on 485 stage, you can use EAD to change employers as many times as you want and get jobs in different cities/states but the job description should be the same -- which means that you cannot except promotions because promotions do change job descriptions.
I am pretty sure about this part and I have verified this part of AC21 portability with a lawyer before.(make that a very reputed and smart lawyer)
You may want to check this part before accepting that promotion.
For the derivative beneficiary, like the spouse who gets EAD because of primary applicant of 485, there are no restrictions though.
Even after 180 days on 485 stage, you can use EAD to change employers as many times as you want and get jobs in different cities/states but the job description should be the same -- which means that you cannot except promotions because promotions do change job descriptions.
I am pretty sure about this part and I have verified this part of AC21 portability with a lawyer before.(make that a very reputed and smart lawyer)
You may want to check this part before accepting that promotion.
For the derivative beneficiary, like the spouse who gets EAD because of primary applicant of 485, there are no restrictions though.
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vin13
04-14 10:02 AM
perfect....
Yes i called the original civil surgeon and the tb test is going to cost $15 only and xray $40.
I found the reason i got the rfe.
I had a copy of the last tb test report.
That civil surgeon forgot to check mark the tb test !!!!
He checked a different section !!!
I feel bad that i missed to read it!
I could have rectified the darn doctor then and there.
It was during the july fiasco. We were all in a hurry and tensed up.
Thanks for your update.
Once this rfe is cleared, i am going to sue that doctor for expenses!
I feel sad that people dont do their jobs properly in this advanced country.
you are complaining about the doctor who missed to check mark the tb test. Even you missed to fill in your profile.
Please update your profile.
Thanks
Yes i called the original civil surgeon and the tb test is going to cost $15 only and xray $40.
I found the reason i got the rfe.
I had a copy of the last tb test report.
That civil surgeon forgot to check mark the tb test !!!!
He checked a different section !!!
I feel bad that i missed to read it!
I could have rectified the darn doctor then and there.
It was during the july fiasco. We were all in a hurry and tensed up.
Thanks for your update.
Once this rfe is cleared, i am going to sue that doctor for expenses!
I feel sad that people dont do their jobs properly in this advanced country.
you are complaining about the doctor who missed to check mark the tb test. Even you missed to fill in your profile.
Please update your profile.
Thanks
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webm
11-19 11:09 AM
If you consider waiting from Feb 2005 is too long, then what you would say for those guys stuck still in BEC from 1999
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NKR
04-18 02:38 PM
I need to request for an interview then.. :)
gcnirvana
05-17 06:43 PM
Thanks fromnaija!
I just wanted to confirm this is possible and if somebody has any experience in doing this.
In the thread you should find the process of contacing your local USCIS office to have your I-94 updated.
I just wanted to confirm this is possible and if somebody has any experience in doing this.
In the thread you should find the process of contacing your local USCIS office to have your I-94 updated.
pa_arora
07-16 01:08 PM
I will give you a green too. You have been a great help to forum members understand retrogression issues.
how do u give a green or red dot??
how do u give a green or red dot??
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