gotgc?
12-19 02:56 PM
Hi All,
I am in a very strange situation. I filed my PERM LC in Jan 2006 and approved in March 2006. While we are preparing for I-140, my company found LC Sub with the PD of Jan 2003 and filed I-140 based on that LC Sub in June 2006.
My LC Sub based I-140 is still pending since June 2006. Then in July 2007, I filed AOS based on that pending LC Sub. I got the EAD & AP. My wife has started working on EAD also.
Still my I-140 is pending and PERM LC is going to expire on Jan 13 2008. My company lawyers are saying that if the I-140 is not approved by Jan 9 2008, they want to withdraw my pending LC Sub and file a new I-140 using the PERM LC.
Question 1: If they do this, what will happen to my pending I-485, EAD & AP?
Question 2: Lawyers are saying that they have to withdraw the LC Sub based I-140 because the job descriptions are different? Is it not possible to file a totally new I-140 and keep both of them pending?
Please help me decide guys!
I am in a very strange situation. I filed my PERM LC in Jan 2006 and approved in March 2006. While we are preparing for I-140, my company found LC Sub with the PD of Jan 2003 and filed I-140 based on that LC Sub in June 2006.
My LC Sub based I-140 is still pending since June 2006. Then in July 2007, I filed AOS based on that pending LC Sub. I got the EAD & AP. My wife has started working on EAD also.
Still my I-140 is pending and PERM LC is going to expire on Jan 13 2008. My company lawyers are saying that if the I-140 is not approved by Jan 9 2008, they want to withdraw my pending LC Sub and file a new I-140 using the PERM LC.
Question 1: If they do this, what will happen to my pending I-485, EAD & AP?
Question 2: Lawyers are saying that they have to withdraw the LC Sub based I-140 because the job descriptions are different? Is it not possible to file a totally new I-140 and keep both of them pending?
Please help me decide guys!
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prdgl
05-24 11:10 PM
True, Savage is not for us. He is unpredictable as someone mentioned above. Today, he was quoting from an article which mentioned about immigrationvoice. He was reading the plight of some Mahesh ... . He said to go to home country. All H1B's came on a big lie. Oracle who is lobbying for H1and Mr Gates are all greedy etc. He was going on and on.
First, ask HIM to go back where he came from in 1939-1945 during Nazi regime. This land is not owned by anybody, this is a LAND OF IMMIGRANTS. No one is native anyway, so what the heck !!
First, ask HIM to go back where he came from in 1939-1945 during Nazi regime. This land is not owned by anybody, this is a LAND OF IMMIGRANTS. No one is native anyway, so what the heck !!
ganguteli
03-16 01:02 PM
I saw this on an anti immigrant site by a M*****r.
Hope some of you will learn a lesson from it and stop posting threads about Telgus, Eb3 vs Eb2.
I have also seen posts by ignorant educated illiterates on IV where they advice people to do illegal things. Some of you own consulting firms or businesses and try to promote it by posting and sending Private messages. If we see such message, let us give reds and report to IV. We also need to discourage people from answering wrong info to posts where someone is illegal/out of status. All this used against us.
They are right to be worried. The L-1 has more restrictions on it than the H-1B, because of a crackdown about 5-6 years ago (if memory serves). They were interpreting ANY IT skill as 'specialized knowledge' that would justify bringing in their folks, then shopping them out to displace ours. Even that notorious traitor, Harris Miller (former head of ITAA) warned them to cut it out, but Hindu hubris prevailed. Until the crackdown. There are two types of L-1 visa, one for managers and one for subject specialists.
One interesting thing: over on Immigration Voice and on any board that allows posts, as soon as we start nailing the problems of the H-1B visa, they start whining, 'what about the L-1' and 'what about the illegals from Mexico' (as in, go worry about them and leave us alone). When the seat gets really hot for them, then the internal ethnic and caste hostilities often start to show. 'It's those gultis' (Andhra Pradeshis), 'It's those gujjus' (Gujaratis), 'It's those greedy Banias' (large merchant class), 'It's the northerners (or southerners)' and so on and so forth.
Another interesting thing: In all the years that I've been watching Immigrationvoice.org, I've seen many situations where an H-1B has fallen out of status. Firing, layoff, botched job switch, etc. In only ONE case have I seen the advice be, "pack your bags." There are a million loopholes that Americans might be outraged to learn about. 8-9 years ago, the average American had no clue about guestworkers visas, but now they know something has gone very wrong in the job market.
Hope some of you will learn a lesson from it and stop posting threads about Telgus, Eb3 vs Eb2.
I have also seen posts by ignorant educated illiterates on IV where they advice people to do illegal things. Some of you own consulting firms or businesses and try to promote it by posting and sending Private messages. If we see such message, let us give reds and report to IV. We also need to discourage people from answering wrong info to posts where someone is illegal/out of status. All this used against us.
They are right to be worried. The L-1 has more restrictions on it than the H-1B, because of a crackdown about 5-6 years ago (if memory serves). They were interpreting ANY IT skill as 'specialized knowledge' that would justify bringing in their folks, then shopping them out to displace ours. Even that notorious traitor, Harris Miller (former head of ITAA) warned them to cut it out, but Hindu hubris prevailed. Until the crackdown. There are two types of L-1 visa, one for managers and one for subject specialists.
One interesting thing: over on Immigration Voice and on any board that allows posts, as soon as we start nailing the problems of the H-1B visa, they start whining, 'what about the L-1' and 'what about the illegals from Mexico' (as in, go worry about them and leave us alone). When the seat gets really hot for them, then the internal ethnic and caste hostilities often start to show. 'It's those gultis' (Andhra Pradeshis), 'It's those gujjus' (Gujaratis), 'It's those greedy Banias' (large merchant class), 'It's the northerners (or southerners)' and so on and so forth.
Another interesting thing: In all the years that I've been watching Immigrationvoice.org, I've seen many situations where an H-1B has fallen out of status. Firing, layoff, botched job switch, etc. In only ONE case have I seen the advice be, "pack your bags." There are a million loopholes that Americans might be outraged to learn about. 8-9 years ago, the average American had no clue about guestworkers visas, but now they know something has gone very wrong in the job market.
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MerciesOfInjustices
02-26 03:46 PM
I have sent the following email to Mr. Tytler.
Although I am not sure how Mr. Tytler would react, I thought, it doesn't hurt to try.
Unfortunately, I do not know any one in the political circles in India. May be members hailing from the New Delhi area could help garner support.
************************************************** *******
Dear Mr. Jagadish Tytler,
I am writing to you from the Seattle area in Washington state of the United States, on behalf of the NRI community in the USA. In December 2005, a group of professionals comprising of software engineers, physicians and the like have started a forum called Immigration Voice that strives for improvements in the outdated and restrictive US Immigration laws that is impacting the NRI community.
Sir, You are very well aware of the contribution in terms of the foreign exchange and investments NRIs bring about in India. I am writing this email to you to make you aware of the efforts of this group, numbering over 1000 members, which is working with Senators and Representatives of the United States.
The website is located at http://www.immigrationvoice.org
The group has solicited contributions from members, and has currently signed up Quinn Gillespie and Associates, a public affairs firm which will lobby our interests with the Senators and Representatives.
We would like to invite you to participate in our efforts, and help us in bringing about greater awareness at a political leadership level.
Thanking you,
Shri Vayalar Ravi is listed as the Minister for Overseas Affairs at the PMO website! His email address is listed as: vayalar@sansad.nic.in
Although I am not sure how Mr. Tytler would react, I thought, it doesn't hurt to try.
Unfortunately, I do not know any one in the political circles in India. May be members hailing from the New Delhi area could help garner support.
************************************************** *******
Dear Mr. Jagadish Tytler,
I am writing to you from the Seattle area in Washington state of the United States, on behalf of the NRI community in the USA. In December 2005, a group of professionals comprising of software engineers, physicians and the like have started a forum called Immigration Voice that strives for improvements in the outdated and restrictive US Immigration laws that is impacting the NRI community.
Sir, You are very well aware of the contribution in terms of the foreign exchange and investments NRIs bring about in India. I am writing this email to you to make you aware of the efforts of this group, numbering over 1000 members, which is working with Senators and Representatives of the United States.
The website is located at http://www.immigrationvoice.org
The group has solicited contributions from members, and has currently signed up Quinn Gillespie and Associates, a public affairs firm which will lobby our interests with the Senators and Representatives.
We would like to invite you to participate in our efforts, and help us in bringing about greater awareness at a political leadership level.
Thanking you,
Shri Vayalar Ravi is listed as the Minister for Overseas Affairs at the PMO website! His email address is listed as: vayalar@sansad.nic.in
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rbalaji5
07-17 01:14 AM
Is it possible to file I-485 without I-693(Medical) ?
The reason I ask is that I cannot get a doctor's appointment in July. For some reason, if we are able to file in July, can I submit the 485 first and submit teh I-693 later.
Please advise
Where are you located?. East bay?
The reason I ask is that I cannot get a doctor's appointment in July. For some reason, if we are able to file in July, can I submit the 485 first and submit teh I-693 later.
Please advise
Where are you located?. East bay?
snathan
06-17 08:31 PM
I dont understand, why in the world some one wants to take responsiblity if the client is not paying. As long as you submit your time sheet in time, you are done. Why one should take responsibility to collect and legal fees...come on..give me a break
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12-31 04:41 PM
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sayonara
11-26 11:35 AM
In our case, the primary applicant has received FP but the dependent has not yet received, has this happened to anyone?
I called Customer Service and now they ask that we wait 180 days from the time the case is transferred to NSC before enquiring about it !
I called Customer Service and now they ask that we wait 180 days from the time the case is transferred to NSC before enquiring about it !
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gsc999
09-19 10:50 PM
I also met several American citizens who were passing by and were curious about the rally. Me and JazzbytheBay explained and they listened patiently. One hour later I saw them marching with us holding flowers that some of our volunteers were distributing to passer bys. One gentleman was a school teacher.
IV needs grassroot support from half a million people stuck in various stages of green card process. You can be from any country. We welcome and invite members from all countries and communities to join our efforts.
Additionally, one of our best friends can be American citizen who understand the issue from economic, personal and other perspectives. If they become part of our voice we will become more effective.
Each one of us has to become "IV brand ambassador" and present our issue in right perspective to counter so much misinformation floated by some vested interests. Yes, you can do it. We can facilitate.
IV needs grassroot support from half a million people stuck in various stages of green card process. You can be from any country. We welcome and invite members from all countries and communities to join our efforts.
Additionally, one of our best friends can be American citizen who understand the issue from economic, personal and other perspectives. If they become part of our voice we will become more effective.
Each one of us has to become "IV brand ambassador" and present our issue in right perspective to counter so much misinformation floated by some vested interests. Yes, you can do it. We can facilitate.
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gene77
10-19 06:31 PM
Okay. I was able to talk to my attorney just a few minutes ago. He said, to do interfiling , you do not need to have PD current based on new I-140 as this is just a case update with new 140 information. He said that in any case, your 485 will be picked based on PD. I found him very very confident when he was telling me all this info to me.
Question - the PD is never mentioned on the 485, it comes from the the underlying I140. So this leads me to understand that they'll interfile the I140 with the pending I485 even if our PD isn't current. Hmm...this conflicts with the info posted on www.immigration-law.com.
Question - the PD is never mentioned on the 485, it comes from the the underlying I140. So this leads me to understand that they'll interfile the I140 with the pending I485 even if our PD isn't current. Hmm...this conflicts with the info posted on www.immigration-law.com.
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gsc999
09-20 07:15 PM
It is always an honor and mark of respect to sing national anthem of a country that has given us so much and whose citizen we aspire to become.
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Rinsha
02-18 02:03 PM
What happens if you get laid off by your employer right after you get the green card? That's different than voluntarily leaving your employer, isn't it?
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bsbawa10
05-27 04:53 AM
op seems to have just lost it!
(no offense please)
dis is wat happens 2 normal beings one-by-one.. can't blame anyone.
Years and years of wait, fear, desperation, being deceived and finally followed by series of shocks called visa bulletins --> end result "it all ends-up this way".
My apologies, I thought I was making a point. The point was trying to see and realize that if USCIS was behaving with us this way it is, what would happen if it was a product selling company ? Could it do the same to its customers ? Could customers tolerate it ? Could USCIS have survived ?
But if I could not show it just ignore my thread or Admin , please delete it.
(no offense please)
dis is wat happens 2 normal beings one-by-one.. can't blame anyone.
Years and years of wait, fear, desperation, being deceived and finally followed by series of shocks called visa bulletins --> end result "it all ends-up this way".
My apologies, I thought I was making a point. The point was trying to see and realize that if USCIS was behaving with us this way it is, what would happen if it was a product selling company ? Could it do the same to its customers ? Could customers tolerate it ? Could USCIS have survived ?
But if I could not show it just ignore my thread or Admin , please delete it.
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james_bond_007
04-09 05:22 PM
I just received the following email from TSC. case status is also updated with a hard LUD. It seems like TSC online system is working again!!!!!!!
receipt Number: SRC07******
Application Type: I485, APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS
Current Status: Card production ordered.
On April 9, 2009, we ordered production of your new card. Please allow 30 days for your card to be mailed to you. If we need something from you we will contact you. If you move before you receive the card, call customer service. You can also receive automatic e-mail updates as we process your case. Just follow the link below to register.
receipt Number: SRC07******
Application Type: I485, APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS
Current Status: Card production ordered.
On April 9, 2009, we ordered production of your new card. Please allow 30 days for your card to be mailed to you. If we need something from you we will contact you. If you move before you receive the card, call customer service. You can also receive automatic e-mail updates as we process your case. Just follow the link below to register.
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baburob2
01-18 11:59 PM
H1B petition has dual intent ie immigrant intent on an non-immigrant visa and hence previous filing of I-140 with the previous employer shouldn't affect your new application for H1B.
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javadeveloper
03-09 04:24 PM
Thanks for responding.I thought it's easy in India as we can directly go to passport office & get it in a day.
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sonu
02-07 11:20 AM
My receipt date was 09/12 , approved on 11/20
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pappu
05-30 06:12 PM
I got this while I tried to login to my account.
Is it because I did not pay any donations? It seems to me that the admins are after money than anything else and hence I never paid.
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Hello nitkad, (your old ID)
You were banned for the following reason: These are the messages you have been writing to people and people have complained about you several times. Some of them have been quoted below. After several repeat offenses, IV has decided to deny you access to its website. Let others on this forum now see why IV bans some people.
Stop acting innocent. IV is here for a cause and we are serious in what we do. If you need to pick up fights with members on a forum or want to demean others and use offensive language, this is not a site for you.
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yes, and hence you are getting a green dot.
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bhaag
kutte!
bhaag saale
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so, you can add any shit here?
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he told him that he is a member of IV which has stupids like you
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saale maa-baap pe kyu jata hai?
to vapas India ja
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Is it because I did not pay any donations? It seems to me that the admins are after money than anything else and hence I never paid.
You have been banned for the following reason:
No reason was specified.
Date the ban will be lifted: Never
Hello nitkad, (your old ID)
You were banned for the following reason: These are the messages you have been writing to people and people have complained about you several times. Some of them have been quoted below. After several repeat offenses, IV has decided to deny you access to its website. Let others on this forum now see why IV bans some people.
Stop acting innocent. IV is here for a cause and we are serious in what we do. If you need to pick up fights with members on a forum or want to demean others and use offensive language, this is not a site for you.
BYE BYE
ou keep bumbing, I keep you dumping :)
crappy
Your Status = stupid
BC
bhaag saale
tu kisaki baat kar raha hai?
bhaag
kutte saale sab jan paise nahi khaate
bhaag saale, kayako khali pili time waste
chutiye
????????????????????????????????????????????????
choop saale
fight? tu karega fight?
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mere baap tu bheja mat kha!
yes, and hence you are getting a green dot.
just don't like you
just thought you have enouh green dots
bhaag saale
bhaad mai gayi teri respected forum
get one more you stupid
show your tits to all
bhaag saale, I think you like red hence giving one
get some red
chup be
gand teri
whats your problem
And no donations to this IV. You are a selfish asshole
khalipili kayako reply karata hai
bhaag
kutte!
bhaag saale
bhikari
so, you can add any shit here?
shut the .... up
shut the .... up
he told him that he is a member of IV which has stupids like you
tere shaadi ke photo ki link bhej
get lost
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Fightwithfate
03-19 08:15 AM
1. Read this pdf. http://www.uscis.gov/files/article/E1eng.pdf This should answer your questions on H-1B
2. Documents are needed to demonstrate that offered job is of specialty occupation and the beneficiary meets job qualification. It also has checks for employer who is offering H-1B job.
3. Pay stubs are needed so as to prove that beneficiary is maintaining valid H-1B status when another H-1B petition is filed.
4. Client Letter is needed so that Employer (petitioner) can demonstrate that the proffered position qualifies as a specialty occupation, or that the petitioner has complied with the terms and conditions of the LCA.
H-1B is not for any job. The job must meet requirements for H-1B. Read the pdf mentioned above.
I am sorry that you feel like sl***, but you do have option of changing the job if you don't like current job and you feel like s****.
Thanks for sharing your "sad" story!
________________
Not a legal advice.
Looks like you got angry.Everybody knows H1 requirements as much as you do.Do you think are the only one who is smart in this world.I don't think so.
You haven't answer me the question"What if your H1 is denied once you started working with out its approval" which I replied in your first post.
Also you have replied me that H1B is not for speculative job.If it is true then what is the need of H1 Change of employer.Can you inform USCIS to remove this option.
When your H1 got approved first time the same USCIS verified your Educational certificates.Why they want to do the same verification again and again?
I advice you to read murthy.com articles which sometimes point out that USCIS document were not clear
2. Documents are needed to demonstrate that offered job is of specialty occupation and the beneficiary meets job qualification. It also has checks for employer who is offering H-1B job.
3. Pay stubs are needed so as to prove that beneficiary is maintaining valid H-1B status when another H-1B petition is filed.
4. Client Letter is needed so that Employer (petitioner) can demonstrate that the proffered position qualifies as a specialty occupation, or that the petitioner has complied with the terms and conditions of the LCA.
H-1B is not for any job. The job must meet requirements for H-1B. Read the pdf mentioned above.
I am sorry that you feel like sl***, but you do have option of changing the job if you don't like current job and you feel like s****.
Thanks for sharing your "sad" story!
________________
Not a legal advice.
Looks like you got angry.Everybody knows H1 requirements as much as you do.Do you think are the only one who is smart in this world.I don't think so.
You haven't answer me the question"What if your H1 is denied once you started working with out its approval" which I replied in your first post.
Also you have replied me that H1B is not for speculative job.If it is true then what is the need of H1 Change of employer.Can you inform USCIS to remove this option.
When your H1 got approved first time the same USCIS verified your Educational certificates.Why they want to do the same verification again and again?
I advice you to read murthy.com articles which sometimes point out that USCIS document were not clear
Macaca
01-25 06:12 PM
My personal situation: I was on F1 visa for 6 years before I started LC process with a company for a totally unrelated to my field of studies position (EB3). We had PERM approved and filed I-140, with me still on F1. I-140 was approved and now we are stuck in retrogression. Meanwhile, and after I-140 was approved, I graduated and applied for H1B based on my major. I have disclosed on H1B application that I have I-140 approved from another company and attached a copy. Not a question asked. H1B was approved within 9 days (cap exempt).
And there's more. Because I violated my F1 status years ago by accepting unauthorized employment (tracable through taxes), my lawer told me to leave the country and re-enter, to cut the tail clean and be eligable for adjustment of status when the quotas open up. I went to Canada, and applied for H1B visa stamp, disclosing on the applicqation that I have I-140 approved and have violated my visa terms previously ("yes" to question 38, in "kiss of death" section of the application). Very stressful time that was. But in the end - no problem, got the stamp and was back in two days.
This makes lot of sense. It does not make sense to have your F1 file and accept I-140, if it violates a USCIS rule.
Nice to know. I thought I-140 required pay checks.
And there's more. Because I violated my F1 status years ago by accepting unauthorized employment (tracable through taxes), my lawer told me to leave the country and re-enter, to cut the tail clean and be eligable for adjustment of status when the quotas open up. I went to Canada, and applied for H1B visa stamp, disclosing on the applicqation that I have I-140 approved and have violated my visa terms previously ("yes" to question 38, in "kiss of death" section of the application). Very stressful time that was. But in the end - no problem, got the stamp and was back in two days.
This makes lot of sense. It does not make sense to have your F1 file and accept I-140, if it violates a USCIS rule.
Nice to know. I thought I-140 required pay checks.
helpful_leo
02-23 02:58 PM
3/ How likely is it that PACE will become law?
Extremely likely. It is a bill with bipartisan support (almost equal number of Republican and Democrat co-sponsors). Plus, there is tremendous political will in Washington DC right now, cutting across party lines, to enact a legislation that will maintain America�s competitiveness in science and technology. The traditional anti-immigrant lobby that usually shoots down such legislation is also not too bothered by the automatic adjustment of status (AOS) privileges (i.e. a GC) being provided to PhDs, as the total number of PhDs is too miniscule a number, and seen to add tremendous value to the system for even them and their prejudices to oppose it. The total number that will be given these benefits under PACE will be a few hundreds, and this at a time when there are bills in senate and congress to legalize the 11 million (i.e. 11,000, 000) illegal workers living presently within US borders. Please know that the PACE bill is inspired by the highly regarded National Academies report that came out in the latter half of last year, and therefore has very strong credentials backing it. The only thing we have to do is to get these minor amendments incorporated into PACE; otherwise the bill will be passed and we will be left high and dry, and there won�t be as good a chance for us in the near future to get that elusive green card.
Extremely likely. It is a bill with bipartisan support (almost equal number of Republican and Democrat co-sponsors). Plus, there is tremendous political will in Washington DC right now, cutting across party lines, to enact a legislation that will maintain America�s competitiveness in science and technology. The traditional anti-immigrant lobby that usually shoots down such legislation is also not too bothered by the automatic adjustment of status (AOS) privileges (i.e. a GC) being provided to PhDs, as the total number of PhDs is too miniscule a number, and seen to add tremendous value to the system for even them and their prejudices to oppose it. The total number that will be given these benefits under PACE will be a few hundreds, and this at a time when there are bills in senate and congress to legalize the 11 million (i.e. 11,000, 000) illegal workers living presently within US borders. Please know that the PACE bill is inspired by the highly regarded National Academies report that came out in the latter half of last year, and therefore has very strong credentials backing it. The only thing we have to do is to get these minor amendments incorporated into PACE; otherwise the bill will be passed and we will be left high and dry, and there won�t be as good a chance for us in the near future to get that elusive green card.
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